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Для меня все равно загадка, почему не поговорить с ними по душам и не сделать toxcore 2.0 совместно?
To avoid any undesired effects of optimizing compilers, use the SecureZeroMemory function.
Факт №1. В master-ветку попадает код, который падает на тестах
../auto_tests/onion_test.c:136:F:basic:test_basic:0: Onion failed initializing.
../auto_tests/onion_test.c:372:F:announce:test_announce:0: Failed to create onions. 0
../auto_tests/TCP_test.c:46:F:basic:test_basic:0: Failed to connect to TCP relay server
../auto_tests/TCP_test.c:143:F:some:test_some:0: Failed to connect to TCP relay server
../auto_tests/TCP_test.c:399:F:client:test_client:0: Wrong status. Expected: 5, is: 4
../auto_tests/TCP_test.c:589:F:tcp_connection:test_tcp_connection:0: could not send packet.
../auto_tests/TCP_test.c:686:F:tcp_connection2:test_tcp_connection2:0: could not send packet.
../auto_tests/tox_test.c:927:F:many_clients_tcp:test_many_clients_tcp:0: add relay error
../auto_tests/tox_test.c:1022:F:many_clients_tcp_b:test_many_clients_tcp_b:0: add relay error
../auto_tests/dht_test.c:595:E:DHT_test:test_DHT_test:0: (after this point) Test timeout expired
make[3]: Leaving directory '/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master/build'
make check-TESTS
make[3]: Entering directory '/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master/build'
make[4]: Entering directory '/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master/build'
PASS: encryptsave_test
PASS: messenger_autotest
PASS: crypto_test
PASS: network_test
PASS: assoc_test
PASS: onion_test
PASS: TCP_test
PASS: tox_test
PASS: dht_autotest
make[5]: Entering directory '/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master/build'
make[5]: Nothing to be done for 'all'.
make[5]: Leaving directory '/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master/build'
============================================================================
Testsuite summary for tox 0.0.0
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# TOTAL: 9
# PASS: 9
# SKIP: 0
# XFAIL: 0
# FAIL: 0
# XPASS: 0
# ERROR: 0
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make[4]: Leaving directory '/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master/build'
make[3]: Leaving directory '/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master/build'
make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master/build'
make[2]: Entering directory '/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master'
make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master'
make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master'
root@l64tox1:/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master#
make[3]: Leaving directory '/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master/build'
make check-TESTS
make[3]: Entering directory '/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master/build'
make[4]: Entering directory '/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master/build'
PASS: encryptsave_test
PASS: messenger_autotest
PASS: crypto_test
PASS: network_test
PASS: assoc_test
PASS: onion_test
FAIL: TCP_test
FAIL: tox_test
PASS: dht_autotest
make[5]: Entering directory '/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master/build'
make[5]: Nothing to be done for 'all'.
make[5]: Leaving directory '/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master/build'
============================================================================
Testsuite summary for tox 0.0.0
============================================================================
# TOTAL: 9
# PASS: 7
# SKIP: 0
# XFAIL: 0
# FAIL: 2
# XPASS: 0
# ERROR: 0
============================================================================
See build/test-suite.log
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Makefile:2642: recipe for target 'test-suite.log' failed
make[4]: *** [test-suite.log] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory '/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master/build'
Makefile:2748: recipe for target 'check-TESTS' failed
make[3]: *** [check-TESTS] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory '/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master/build'
Makefile:2891: recipe for target 'check-am' failed
make[2]: *** [check-am] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory '/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master/build'
Makefile:505: recipe for target 'check-recursive' failed
make[1]: *** [check-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/usr/tox20160205/toxcore-master'
Makefile:794: recipe for target 'check' failed
make: *** [check] Error 2
cat build/test-suite.log=====================================
tox 0.0.0: build/test-suite.log
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# TOTAL: 9
# PASS: 7
# SKIP: 0
# XFAIL: 0
# FAIL: 2
# XPASS: 0
# ERROR: 0
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FAIL: TCP_test
==============
Running suite(s): TCP
33%: Checks: 6, Failures: 4, Errors: 0
../auto_tests/TCP_test.c:37:F:basic:test_basic:0: Failed to bind to all ports
../auto_tests/TCP_test.c:219:F:some:test_some:0: Failed to bind to all ports
../auto_tests/TCP_test.c:385:F:client:test_client:0: Failed to bind to all ports
../auto_tests/TCP_test.c:589:F:tcp_connection:test_tcp_connection:0: could not send packet.
FAIL: tox_test
==============
Running suite(s): Tox
Toxes are online, took 8 seconds
tox clients connected took 2 seconds
tox clients messaging succeeded
3427
Toxes are online again after reloading, took 8 seconds
tox clients connected took 2 seconds
Starting file transfer test.
100MB file sent in 12 seconds
Starting file streaming transfer test.
Starting file 0 transfer test.
test_few_clients succeeded, took 24 seconds
test_many_clients succeeded, took 19 seconds
test_many_clients_tcp succeeded, took 10 seconds
test_many_clients_tcp_b succeeded, took 9 seconds
friends connected, took 16 seconds
83%: Checks: 6, Failures: 1, Errors: 0
../auto_tests/tox_test.c:1221:F:many_group:test_many_group:0: Bad number of group peers. expected: 32 got: 30, tox 30
make check я такой же вызываю, а gcc (Debian 4.9.2-10) 4.9.2 и, опять таки, читайте что я написал про окружение, в котором проходит тест. И когда в моем случае он прошел, а когда зафейлил.405854e
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<LearnC> Hi! onion_client.c: is_path_used iterates over onion_paths but uses only the last of nodes. is it OK?
<linux-modder> that last bit made no sense are you asking if compiling that way is ok or confirming that the .c file is written right ?
<stal> LearnC: it's probably fine
<LearnC> it makes no sence to pass pointer to the whole array if you use only 1 value
<stal> i don't think there was a conscious decision to write it that way
<stal> maybe gentoo just did it that way when he factored that code out of random_path
/* Redefinitions of variables for safe transfer over wire. */
#define TOX_AF_INET 2
#define TOX_AF_INET6 10
#define TOX_TCP_INET 130
#define TOX_TCP_INET6 138
if (data[len_processed] == TOX_AF_INET) {
ipv6 = 0;
host_family = AF_INET;
} else if (data[len_processed] == TOX_TCP_INET) {
if (!tcp_enabled)
return -1;
ipv6 = 0;
host_family = TCP_INET;
} else if (data[len_processed] == TOX_AF_INET6) {
ipv6 = 1;
host_family = AF_INET6;
} else if (data[len_processed] == TOX_TCP_INET6) {
if (!tcp_enabled)
return -1;
ipv6 = 1;
host_family = TCP_INET6;
} else {
return -1;
}
uint32_t size = PACKED_NODE_SIZE_IP4;
if (packed_length + size > length)
return -1;
data[packed_length] = net_family;
memcpy(data + packed_length + 1, &nodes[i].ip_port.ip.ip4, SIZE_IP4);
memcpy(data + packed_length + 1 + SIZE_IP4, &nodes[i].ip_port.port, sizeof(uint16_t));
memcpy(data + packed_length + 1 + SIZE_IP4 + sizeof(uint16_t), nodes[i].public_key, crypto_box_PUBLICKEYBYTES);
packed_length += size;
} else if (ipv6 == 1) {
uint32_t size = PACKED_NODE_SIZE_IP6;
if (packed_length + size > length)
return -1;
data[packed_length] = net_family;
memcpy(data + packed_length + 1, &nodes[i].ip_port.ip.ip6, SIZE_IP6);
memcpy(data + packed_length + 1 + SIZE_IP6, &nodes[i].ip_port.port, sizeof(uint16_t));
memcpy(data + packed_length + 1 + SIZE_IP6 + sizeof(uint16_t), nodes[i].public_key, crypto_box_PUBLICKEYBYTES);
packed_length += size;
<LearnC> grayhatter, hi
<LearnC> I have just answered your comment in my PR #1506
<LearnC> Can we communicate a little bit closely?
* Rowen_Stipe puffs on a pipe while wearing a bathrobe,"How closely you intend to get?"
<cisc_> you sure that's a pipe?
* cisc_ is now known as cisc
<danieli> it's something nasty in a pipe disguise
* Rowen_Stipe takes a large hit and holds it,"Yeah, It's a pipe alright" exhales a plume of smoke.
<LearnC> haha thats funny to joke on a non native englishspeaker
<danieli> english is my fourth language
<danieli> don't complain
<danieli> (was it sarcasm? I don't even know anymre)
<danieli> anymore*
<Rowen_Stipe> LearnC: Even if you wern't a nativ enlighs epeaker the joke would of been made.
намекает на что, что там сидят школьники.Ой, да сколько людей путают your и you're.
^.*?has left #tox.*?$, ^.*?is now known as.*?$, ^.*?has joined.*?$, ^.*?has quit.*?$). Если там какие-то диалоги между -- и -- бещ вас, это значит вы или вошли или вышли в этот момент.2016-01-24 15:45:28 t-ask If I remove someone from my contacts list, do I appear then as offline for that person?
2016-01-24 15:45:46 t-ask btw. are there any developments in bringing tox to ubuntu phones?
2016-01-24 15:46:32 Rowen_Stipe t-ask: Yes, that's what happens. They just see you going perminately offline, you're not removed from their friendlist.
2016-01-24 15:47:32 t-ask Rowen_Stipe: ok, fine. Btw. is qtox still the best choice for desktop usage?
2016-01-24 15:47:47 t-ask "best" in quotes ;)
2016-01-24 15:48:01 Rowen_Stipe It has the most features to it certainly.
2016-01-24 15:48:22 Rowen_Stipe But best is always a relative term with Tox clients
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2016-01-24 19:31:03 cisc_ www.dailydot.com/politics/anonymity-homeland-security-erik-barnett
2016-01-24 19:31:26 cisc_ what a fucking moron that guy is, how he is even getting paid taxpayer dollars is beyond me
2016-01-24 19:33:37 Rowen_Stipe cisc_: Cause the people that aren't half dead are working in the privet sector.
2016-01-24 19:37:24 cisc_ maybe the American people should be able to see everything he does online, in real time
2016-01-24 19:38:04 @zero-one we're back at SCaLE again
2016-01-24 19:38:09 cisc_ oh wait.. when it comes to the congress & the senate they're immune to their own laws
2016-01-24 19:38:13 @zero-one join the groupchat via groupbot
2016-01-24 19:38:34 @zero-one password is "scale14x"
2016-01-24 19:38:53 @zero-one everyone is hungover and shit, so the floor is pretty empty right now
2016-01-24 19:39:17 Impyy lol
2016-01-24 19:39:28 Rowen_Stipe XD
2016-01-24 19:42:18 LearnC grayhatter, hi
2016-01-24 19:42:43 LearnC I have just answered your comment in my PR #1506
2016-01-24 19:43:45 LearnC Can we communicate a little bit closely?
2016-01-24 19:46:25 * Rowen_Stipe puffs on a pipe while wearing a bathrobe,"How closely you intend to get?"
2016-01-24 19:46:56 cisc_ you sure that's a pipe?
2016-01-24 19:47:33 danieli it's something nasty in a pipe disguise
2016-01-24 19:48:04 * Rowen_Stipe takes a large hit and holds it,"Yeah, It's a pipe alright" exhales a plume of smoke.
2016-01-24 19:48:09 LearnC haha thats funny to joke on a non native englishspeaker
2016-01-24 19:48:23 danieli english is my fourth language
2016-01-24 19:48:29 danieli don't complain
2016-01-24 19:48:42 danieli (was it sarcasm? I don't even know anymre)
2016-01-24 19:48:45 danieli anymore*
2016-01-24 19:49:10 Rowen_Stipe LearnC: Even if you wern't a nativ enlighs epeaker the joke would of been made.
2016-01-24 19:49:21 LearnC would have*
2016-01-24 19:50:31 danieli LearnC: it's not "illegal" to use "of" instead of "have" in british english, it's just a relaxation of pronounciation
2016-01-24 19:51:23 LearnC do you want to discuss a my intention of close communication or to discuss that you don't correctly zero memory?
2016-01-24 19:51:40 LearnC That is what I found and I created a pull request
2016-01-24 19:52:13 LearnC you cannot use memset before free memory and rely on that kind of code
2016-01-24 19:52:21 danieli >memset
2016-01-24 19:52:26 danieli >reliable
2016-01-24 19:52:33 LearnC no
2016-01-24 19:53:37 Impyy LearnC, do you think there's a way to keep nacl compatibility?
2016-01-24 19:54:04 LearnC If there is a function in NaCl to zero memory than yes
2016-01-24 19:55:13 Impyy I think that function is a libsodium feature, it doesn't exist in nacl
2016-01-24 19:55:19 LearnC Implementing such a function may lead to security problems, unless there are some good skilled cryptographers who are both know how compiler works
2016-01-24 19:55:33 LearnC Impyy, no, its not a feature. msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/hardware/ff562768%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
2016-01-24 19:56:25 Impyy LearnC, consider me corrected
2016-01-24 19:56:45 Impyy anyways I've never really understood why it's important to have nacl compatibility
2016-01-24 19:56:58 Impyy solely depending on libsodium seems fine
2016-01-24 19:57:26 LearnC I understand there might be some backward compatibility you want to save
2016-01-24 19:57:36 @nurupo it's either we copy the function from libsodium sources and use that or drop nacl support
2016-01-24 19:57:52 @nurupo i'm not sure how important is nacl support
2016-01-24 19:58:11 LearnC And it's up to irungentoo to decide
2016-01-24 19:59:00 LearnC What about timing attacks on publick keys comparison?
2016-01-24 19:59:46 LearnC Do you agree we have to use crypto functions provided by NaCl/Sodium to cmp keys or any sensitive data instead of memcmp?
2016-01-24 20:01:59 LearnC danieli, or maybe you think >memcmp is >reliable ?
2016-01-24 20:03:39 LearnC Rowen_Stipe, or maybe memcmp is pronounced more relaxed in British English than sodium_memcmp?
2016-01-24 20:03:43 danieli LearnC: depends on the context, usually not
2016-01-24 20:04:05 @nurupo Impyy: nacl is written by a well known cryptographer and has hardware optimizations. at the time tox started, sodium was quite slow and didn't even build on windows, so it wasn
2016-01-24 20:04:25 @nurupo *so it wasn't ready for use yet
2016-01-24 20:04:33 LearnC nurupo, the aim of the project to be secure, right?
2016-01-24 20:04:46 @nurupo right now though, we might consider dropping nacl
2016-01-24 20:05:04 @nurupo LearnC: talk to irungentoo about this
2016-01-24 20:05:16 LearnC thats why I am here
2016-01-24 20:05:22 LearnC w8 4 him
2016-01-24 20:06:50 @nurupo he is usually not on irc during weekends
2016-01-24 20:06:51 cisc dropping nacl and switch to what?
2016-01-24 20:07:05 @nurupo cisc: sodium
2016-01-24 20:07:12 cisc ok
2016-01-24 20:14:22 leer10 zero-one: which group has the password scale14x?
2016-01-24 20:17:21 Rowen_Stipe leer10: message groupbot info
2016-01-24 20:17:42 leer10 Rowen_Stipe cool got it :)
2016-01-24 20:46:37 __init__ is here anybody who tested new groupchats?
2016-01-24 20:47:25 -- Mode #tox [+o SylvieLorxu] by ChanServ
2016-01-24 20:49:25 @grayhatter LearnC: yeah, what did you want to discuss?
2016-01-24 20:50:03 LearnC we have already discussed it with other people in this channel
2016-01-24 20:50:12 LearnC you may read logs
2016-01-24 20:50:50 __init__ grayhatter, update wiki.tox.chat/clients
2016-01-24 20:52:51 @grayhatter __init__: update what?
2016-01-24 20:53:00 @grayhatter LearnC: did you see my GH comment?
2016-01-24 20:53:07 __init__ info about utox
2016-01-24 20:53:37 @grayhatter it's seems updated
2016-01-24 20:53:45 @grayhatter what part did you think was outdated?
2016-01-24 20:54:09 __init__ do you have contact aliases and save file encryption?
2016-01-24 20:54:29 LearnC grayhatter, no. I have read it right now. grayhatter it would be zero secure for nacl
2016-01-24 20:58:37 @grayhatter __init__: done, thank you!
2016-01-24 20:59:06 @grayhatter LearnC: you want to add sodium_memzero correct?
2016-01-24 20:59:13 LearnC yes
2016-01-24 20:59:17 @grayhatter doing so would break NaCL?
2016-01-24 20:59:29 LearnC yes
2016-01-24 21:00:21 LearnC grayhatter, you may find a similar function in NaCl. If you find it, I will write a wrapper not to break NaCl dependency
2016-01-24 21:00:37 @grayhatter so instead of adding the feature for those who use libsodium, making them more secure. Intsead you're saying "if we don't force libsodium, and break NaCL I'm not going to add any code"
2016-01-24 21:00:39 __init__ i hope new groupchats with new group audio will be ready soon. looks like group audio doesn't work right now
2016-01-24 21:01:12 @grayhatter you said writing a custom wrapper, and using ifdef to make libsodium memzero would be insecure
2016-01-24 21:01:16 @zero-one i don't think the new groupchats implementation includes any changes to audio
2016-01-24 21:01:27 @grayhatter I don't understand how doing that would make toxcore LESS secure than it is now
2016-01-24 21:01:32 @zero-one grayhatter: can you confirm
2016-01-24 21:01:39 @grayhatter zero-one: new groupchats have NO audio support
2016-01-24 21:01:59 @grayhatter mannol agreed to add it after they get merged
2016-01-24 21:02:08 @zero-one oh
2016-01-24 21:02:11 __init__ and when it will happen?
2016-01-24 21:02:12 @zero-one i didn't even know that
2016-01-24 21:02:23 @grayhatter tux3 said he'd add groupchats to to qTox after they get audio
2016-01-24 21:02:44 @grayhatter irungentoo said he'd merge groupchats after qTox uTox and Toxic support them
2016-01-24 21:02:54 @grayhatter > we're never going to get new groupchats
2016-01-24 21:03:23 __init__ sounds bad. did you test it?
2016-01-24 21:03:35 @grayhatter __init__: test what?
2016-01-24 21:03:41 __init__ new groupchats
2016-01-24 21:03:46 @grayhatter yeah, they're awesome
2016-01-24 21:03:54 @grayhatter they work on uTox
2016-01-24 21:03:57 @grayhatter and toxic
2016-01-24 21:03:59 @grayhatter and antox
2016-01-24 21:04:09 @grayhatter and Antidote??
2016-01-24 21:04:17 @zero-one BlameAliens:
2016-01-24 21:04:39 Impyy LearnC, excuse my lack of knowledge on this topic, but could crypto_verify be what you're looking for?
2016-01-24 21:04:59 BlameAliens sup
2016-01-24 21:05:13 BlameAliens No groupchats for Antidote or objctox yet
2016-01-24 21:06:19 __init__ grayhatter, is it possible to share files using groupchats in utox right now?
2016-01-24 21:07:45 @grayhatter __init__: no file sharing in groups for any client
2016-01-24 21:07:50 @grayhatter (no core support)
2016-01-24 21:07:55 LearnC Impyy, crypto_verify ~ memcmp, we are looking for a function to zero bytes, not to compare them
2016-01-24 21:08:07 @grayhatter Jfreegman: agreed to add basic file system after groupchats get mereged
2016-01-24 21:08:13 @grayhatter support*
2016-01-24 21:08:30 @grayhatter LearnC: memset() && memcmp()
2016-01-24 21:08:52 @grayhatter (both so the the optimiser won't drop that command)
2016-01-24 21:09:07 Impyy LearnC, well that could replace the use of sodium_memcmp, correct?
2016-01-24 21:09:54 LearnC Impyy, you were right to use crypto_verify to cmp memory, it is both NaCl and Sodium function
2016-01-24 21:10:49 LearnC But I have not found such a function in NaCl to zero memory not to be dropped by optimizer
2016-01-24 21:11:33 Impyy right, me neither
2016-01-24 21:11:41 __init__ time to implement sound notifications and profile im/ex and after release of groupchats utox will be almost ready
2016-01-24 21:12:08 LearnC grayhatter, Intsead you're saying "if we don't force libsodium, and break NaCL I'm not going to add any code" | How are you going to explain users that their were deanonimized due to linkage of toxcore+nacl instead of using safe toxcore+sodium?))
2016-01-24 21:14:54 stal what's likely going to happen is we'll include the sodium functions in the repo
2016-01-24 21:15:48 @grayhatter LearnC: Right, I don't disagree that your way is objectivly better
2016-01-24 21:16:41 @grayhatter I'm asking, why would you say "too bad" to everyone who uses libsodium. Rather than improving libsodium users, and leaving NaCL users at the status quo?
2016-01-24 21:18:25 LearnC grayhatter, well, because the safity would be based on the opinion of package maintainer?
2016-01-24 21:19:36 LearnC the user may even don't care about NaCl vs Sodium. They want to be safe
2016-01-24 21:20:17 LearnC stal, maybe, maybe. But you have to be sure that no one is going to touch that function. And no one should "optimize" it
2016-01-24 21:20:21 Impyy I bet very few compile with nacl instead of libsodium
2016-01-24 21:20:45 Impyy very few people*
2016-01-24 21:21:18 LearnC Impyy, if there are few people, why should you care?
2016-01-24 21:22:00 Impyy I don't
2016-01-24 21:22:20 Impyy if dropping nacl is what it takes to make toxcore more secure, I'm all for it
2016-01-24 21:23:25 LearnC Right now it sounds like that. NaCl will not be dropped if we are going to ^C+^V code from sodium for functions like sodium_memzero
2016-01-24 21:23:34 Impyy not for me to decide, though
2016-01-24 21:24:06 @grayhatter LearnC: unfortunally none of us can really say
2016-01-24 21:24:12 @grayhatter irungentoo has to make that call
2016-01-24 21:24:25 @grayhatter and we're only guessing from what we've heard him say in the past
2016-01-24 21:25:06 @grayhatter zero-one: when are you going to push the new site?
2016-01-24 21:25:12 @grayhatter it's better than what we have now
2016-01-24 21:25:33 @grayhatter if you're waiting for everything to be perfect, you should get out of FOSS
2016-01-24 21:25:35 LearnC grayhatter, I understand. I will be waiting for comments here or on github tomorrow
2016-01-24 21:25:56 Impyy besides the trash can icon for the clients, the new site looks good to me
2016-01-24 21:25:56 @grayhatter LearnC: please don't take anything I've said to disuade you
2016-01-24 21:26:11 @grayhatter I think it's a good idea, and given the two options, I'd rather use yours
2016-01-24 21:26:30 @grayhatter I'm only suggesting the wrapper so we can maintain NaCL if we need to
2016-01-24 21:27:52 LearnC grayhatter, relax, I asked you to find such function because it could be my fault I had not found it. I would have written a wrapper if there were similar functions both in NaCl and Sodium
2016-01-24 21:28:58 LearnC I am not going to be disuaded with some subjective cases.
2016-01-24 21:34:00 LearnC Does someone wants to discuss why I have reimplemented increment_nonce like that?
2016-01-24 21:54:13 -- Mode #tox [+o SylvieLorxu] by ChanServ
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2016-01-25 01:26:26 mrflibble ah, for some reason it's "-T" on ubuntu "don't trim"
2016-01-25 01:30:03 mrflibble wierd, with "don't trim", on hosts that don't resolve, I get a % and then a 9-char number afterwards
2016-01-25 01:30:43 stal lel
2016-01-25 01:30:44 mrflibble i wonder what that's all about, it changes every time i run netstat
2016-01-25 01:32:13 mrflibble i've got some .de, .ru and .ua s in my list
2016-01-25 01:34:25 * mrflibble is happy now he's being useful on the network
2016-01-25 01:35:29 mrflibble time to go, gnite all!
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2016-01-25 10:45:24 -- Mode #tox [+o SylvieLorxu] by ChanServ
2016-01-25 11:02:47 nikitasius helloworld
2016-01-25 11:30:12 LearnC hai
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2016-01-25 18:35:30 -- Mode #tox [+o SylvieLorxu] by ChanServ
2016-01-25 18:39:59 LearnC irungentoo is hiding
2016-01-25 19:02:04 stal he does that
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2016-01-25 23:04:28 onla it might have been here in #tox where someone suggested something else instead of putty, for connecting to a remote shell from windows. I managed to forget it before testing, but would probably be interested to test
2016-01-25 23:06:30 mrflibble evenin all
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2016-01-26 09:05:39 mrflibble grayhatter: i have 2 - a medium-sized one made by LG - PG60G that's 400 lumens, and is mains or battery powered
2016-01-26 09:07:18 mrflibble it's pretty good and will play some content from USB directly
2016-01-26 09:07:40 mrflibble the other one is an optoma pico, which it really small, but is only 10 lumens
2016-01-26 09:07:55 mrflibble u can only really use it at night or with all the curtains shut
2016-01-26 09:08:23 mrflibble it's pretty cool for the size though - it's about a big as a thick smartphone
2016-01-26 09:08:47 mrflibble that's battery and USB-powered
2016-01-26 09:09:34 mrflibble neither will do zoom tho, which is a bit restricting. to resize the image u just have to move them towards or away from the screen
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2016-01-26 10:46:38 Rowen_Stipe So who here doesn;t subscribe to Tom Scott on Youtube?
2016-01-26 10:48:29 @zero-one who's that?
2016-01-26 10:48:40 @submarinegreen Tom Scott
2016-01-26 10:48:46 @submarinegreen the man the myth the legend
2016-01-26 10:49:14 Rowen_Stipe Wears a red shirt a lot.
2016-01-26 10:49:28 Rowen_Stipe www.youtube.com/watch?v=d10k3iiZ_xk
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2016-01-26 14:35:19 benwaffle grayhatter: nope never did wayland
2016-01-26 14:36:24 benwaffle and there's no point since we have xwayland
2016-01-26 14:36:32 benwaffle you should work on UX
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2016-01-26 23:15:17 @nurupo grayhatter: are you ready to travel from country to country in order to develop utox? :P
2016-01-26 23:15:28 @grayhatter that's stupid, they're not going to serve a subpoena to the coders, they going to go after the host.
2016-01-26 23:15:37 @grayhatter they don't give a shit, and will turn over everything
2016-01-26 23:15:53 @grayhatter nurupo: µTox is dead
2016-01-26 23:16:18 @grayhatter but if tox want's to pay for my living and travel expences... maybe I could do taht
2016-01-26 23:20:17 wedgie lol, i must have missed something. utox having legal trouble?
2016-01-26 23:21:03 @grayhatter wedgie: no, I'm just done sinking time into µTox if toxcore is dead
2016-01-26 23:21:36 @grayhatter I'm sitting on 2.5 half done refactors that would make µTox as easy to develop for as qTox if not way easier.
2016-01-26 23:21:53 @grayhatter But toxcore hasn't seen a good commit it weeks
2016-01-26 23:22:06 @grayhatter there's been some minor fixes and patches but that's about it
2016-01-26 23:23:26 @grayhatter groupchats have been idle for months, it was a bitch and a half to get ToxAV merged, and it needs a bit of fixing and mannol has disapeared to be a functioning member of society
2016-01-26 23:24:20 @grayhatter and the last time I tried to suggest something, I got so much flack from nearly everyone that it turned me off developing for Tox at all
2016-01-26 23:25:00 @grayhatter s/suggest something/suggest a new api or feature for toxcore/
2016-01-26 23:51:39 Guest19338 grayhatter: did u see my comments about projectors this morning?
2016-01-26 23:55:59 @grayhatter mrflibble: no, i'll read the back log
2016-01-26 23:56:10 @grayhatter thanks for lettnig me know!
2016-01-26 23:56:56 alec-b anyone with experience with hetzner dedicated servers (auction)? Would you recomend them / or advise to stay away? seems quite cheap... maybe too cheap.
2016-01-27 00:06:08 LearnC Hello. I am waiting any actions on my PR
2016-01-27 00:06:29 @grayhatter LearnC: on toxcore?
2016-01-27 00:06:35 fgro hi. running qtox on gentoo. is there a way I can test the audio testings (like an echo call on skype)?
2016-01-27 00:06:37 @grayhatter you're going to need to talk to irungentoo
2016-01-27 00:07:01 LearnC I am here almost everyday
2016-01-27 00:07:10 LearnC This PR contains security fixes
2016-01-27 00:07:34 @grayhatter LearnC: okay?
2016-01-27 00:07:35 LearnC I can't believe it longs so much time to be accepted or even discussed =(
2016-01-27 00:07:42 @grayhatter you still need to talk to irungentoo
2016-01-27 00:07:58 @grayhatter LearnC: dose it need a discussion?
2016-01-27 00:08:09 LearnC well, why not?
2016-01-27 00:08:15 @grayhatter everyone agrees with you?
2016-01-27 00:08:39 LearnC everyone must agree with me @_@
2016-01-27 00:08:40 @grayhatter no one thinks it's a bad idea
2016-01-27 00:08:53 @grayhatter we still need to wait for irungentoo
2016-01-27 00:08:54 LearnC grayhatter, if you meet him, shall you you give him my email in case I am offline?
2016-01-27 00:09:14 @grayhatter LearnC: I'm likely to forget
2016-01-27 00:09:27 LearnC anyone?)
2016-01-27 00:09:32 @grayhatter tag @irungentoo on github in your PR, ask his directly?
2016-01-27 00:09:39 LearnC I did
2016-01-27 00:10:24 @grayhatter LearnC: your PR is out of date
2016-01-27 00:10:41 @grayhatter can't be merged unless you merge master, or rebase
2016-01-27 00:11:32 LearnC Nice, did you fix tests in CI?
2016-01-27 00:11:42 @grayhatter nope
2016-01-27 00:11:53 @grayhatter nurupo: did a little maintance
2016-01-27 00:12:22 mrflibble np ;)
2016-01-27 00:12:31 Impyy -MemoServ- The memo has been successfully sent to irungentoo.
2016-01-27 00:12:37 Impyy maybe he reads those :p
2016-01-27 00:12:59 @submarinegreen hahahahaha
2016-01-27 00:13:00 @submarinegreen good one
2016-01-27 00:13:09 @nurupo LearnC: you can just email him
2016-01-27 00:13:19 LearnC Thank you all
2016-01-27 00:13:38 LearnC I feel like home
2016-01-27 00:13:54 @nurupo Impyy: yeah, he does, but his email is in every single commit
2016-01-27 00:15:03 Impyy we need a bot that tells him to 'get cracking' as soon as he gets on irc every day
2016-01-27 00:19:06 LearnC grayhatter, I rebased my PR
2016-01-27 00:20:12 LearnC You may run Travis even faster. addons: apt + local make install + ./configure --prefix=local_dir
2016-01-27 00:20:34 LearnC as soon as you don't need sudo at all
2016-01-27 00:20:57 LearnC + sudo switches off IPv6 if I am not mistaken
2016-01-27 00:24:39 LearnC Soooorry, I forgot about trusty+sudo required. Shame on me
2016-01-27 00:24:51 @submarinegreen BRING THE BELL OF SHAME
2016-01-27 00:24:56 * submarinegreen rings the shame bell
2016-01-27 00:24:57 @submarinegreen SHAME
2016-01-27 00:34:40 Chiitoo fgro: I do believe there is an echo-bot somewhere in the ether.
2016-01-27 00:37:28 Chiitoo fgro: echobot@toxme.io I've seen mentioned a few times. Never tried it myself though!
2016-01-27 00:39:09 fgro Chiitoo: ok. I'll have a look.
2016-01-27 00:39:29 Chiitoo Simply add that as a friend, they say. :]
2016-01-27 00:42:37 Chocolate_Chip installgen2, what's your tox address
2016-01-27 00:44:57 fgro Chiitoo: worked! awesome! thank you!
2016-01-27 00:45:44 Chiitoo fgro: Yay. ^^
2016-01-27 00:46:00 * fgro is impressed with tox and it's progress
2016-01-27 00:46:32 @submarinegreen feed me the flesh of intelligence agents
2016-01-27 00:46:35 fgro the days of proprietory skype are hopefully counted.
2016-01-27 00:49:29 installgen2 Chocolate_Chip: tox is terrible I don't use tox
2016-01-27 00:49:50 <-- submarinegreen has kicked installgen2 (then get out)
2016-01-27 01:02:04 LearnC submarinegreen, why did you kick him? frankly speaking I don't use tox either))
2016-01-27 01:02:32 @submarinegreen gen2 is our web site dev
2016-01-27 01:02:37 @submarinegreen we have a friendly relationship
2016-01-27 01:02:49 LearnC <3
2016-01-27 01:05:35 installgen2 dude
2016-01-27 01:05:42 installgen2 who here actually uses tox unironically
2016-01-27 01:06:28 alec-b I use qtox, serious hampered at the moment by the lack of a good solution for the mobile space
2016-01-27 01:07:04 @submarinegreen I use tox
2016-01-27 01:07:41 fo0 o/
2016-01-27 01:08:15 fo0 and include qtox in training for journalists
2016-01-27 01:10:14 installgen2 I bet you losers use linux OS too lmao
2016-01-27 01:11:30 fo0 how much ?
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2016-01-27 02:13:39 @grayhatter submarinegreen: keep thinking
2016-01-27 02:13:43 @grayhatter you'll work that one out
2016-01-27 02:16:45 stal failure is problematic
2016-01-27 02:17:13 stal in order to keep things fair for everyone, there will no longer be pass or fail
2016-01-27 02:17:26 stal everyone will pass, you just need a certain percent to move on
2016-01-27 02:18:40 @grayhatter honestly, that's what education should be
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2016-01-27 02:32:36 @submarinegreen answer my question
2016-01-27 02:33:07 @grayhatter submarinegreen: how do computers work?
2016-01-27 02:33:36 @grayhatter how would you evaulate pass/fail in c code?
2016-01-27 02:36:13 @submarinegreen this is dumb
2016-01-27 02:36:18 @submarinegreen a proper cs course evaluates not only if your code works
2016-01-27 02:36:25 @submarinegreen but if is clean and extendable
2016-01-27 02:36:35 @submarinegreen there's no such thing as a black and white fail pass
2016-01-27 02:36:44 @submarinegreen you can have degrees of talent in everything
2016-01-27 02:36:50 @grayhatter joke killer
2016-01-27 02:36:51 @grayhatter also
2016-01-27 02:36:54 @grayhatter I dissagree
2016-01-27 02:37:00 @grayhatter in a proper CS course yes
2016-01-27 02:37:04 @grayhatter but not cs 101
2016-01-27 02:37:25 @grayhatter cs 101 is about starting to think about and interact with computers they way a computer scientist would
2016-01-27 02:37:39 @grayhatter that's binary, either you can make a computer do what you want, or you cant
2016-01-27 02:37:50 @grayhatter if you can, next level, do it better
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2016-01-27 10:26:51 @zero-one wiiaam: there is a $10 node listing fee
2016-01-27 10:27:01 @zero-one i can't add your node to the list until you pay the fee, or file a fee waiver
2016-01-27 10:31:22 @zero-one wiiaam: your mail server is broken
2016-01-27 10:32:48 wiiaam yep
2016-01-27 10:32:53 wiiaam i just restarted it lol
2016-01-27 10:33:03 wiiaam dont tell me you got in on the 10 second downtime
2016-01-27 10:33:12 @zero-one no idea
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2016-01-28 14:50:47 installgen2 shilling tox hard irl rn
2016-01-28 14:50:58 installgen2 I am trying my hardest to surpess my autism
2016-01-28 14:51:06 installgen2 but the guy I must shill to uses a tiling wm so I should be ok
2016-01-28 14:51:20 installgen2 then he will shill to the thousands of people which are asking him about a privacy respecting messaging application
2016-01-28 14:51:37 installgen2 waiting to talk to him right now, wish me luck
2016-01-28 14:54:02 installgen2 will need friends tho, pls add EC996816F74AE707CDA62E6B2648FD9FDB20CFCCE90B0A732E9F403B3BD2E3682ABD3ECCF923
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2016-01-28 19:57:27 danieli get libtool firegurafiku
2016-01-28 19:58:42 firegurafiku danieli, simply installing libtool made it working O_O
2016-01-28 20:00:00 firegurafiku Thank you!
2016-01-28 20:09:48 danieli firegurafiku: no problem :)
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2016-01-29 14:28:09 LearnC Hi
2016-01-29 14:28:51 LearnC I did tell you but in my PR I found a strange bug. After I replaced memset to sodium_memzero some tests started to fail
2016-01-29 14:29:03 LearnC ooops)
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2016-01-29 18:39:38 @grayhatter LearnC: which tests?
2016-01-29 18:40:12 LearnC w8...
2016-01-29 18:45:35 LearnC grayhatter, tox_test
2016-01-29 18:45:57 LearnC grayhatter, use git bisect
2016-01-29 19:11:58 @grayhatter wow zetok is thick isn't he...
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а что именно считать за опасность в его контексте?
Так ли безопасен Tox, как его малюют?