Internet Archive предупреждает об опасности автоматической фильтрации контента в интернете

[@Raytheon]

Честно говоря, я не удивлюсь исходу гиков в онион после какого-нибудь совсем уж маразматичного закона. «Там, где пьет толпа — родники отравлены».
Другой вопрос, что делать там прямо сейчас практически нечего.

[@WoWtchik]

Если будет массовый переход, то они будут лобировать запрет этого бесплатного. Например обязательными отчислениям фиксированной суммы + процентов в какой-нибудь MPAA и иже с ним.

[@bgBrother]

В некотором роде это уже сейчас делают. При покупке болванок платим налог. При этом не важно что мы туда записываем — debian или произведение Михалкова.

[@CheeseMaster]

Если так рассуждать, то можно всю жизнь ничего не делать

[@d7s2di]

Забавно, archive.org через https в РФ теперь блочится?
openssl s_client -connect archive.org:443`
CONNECTED(00000003)
write:errno=104
no peer certificate available
No client certificate CA names sent
SSL handshake has read 0 bytes and written 295 bytes
New, (NONE), Cipher is (NONE)
Secure Renegotiation IS NOT supported
Compression: NONE
Expansion: NONE
`

Докатились.

[@alexws54tk]

ЧЯДНТ?

Новосибирск «ТТК» на работе

alex@alex:~$ openssl s_client -connect archive.org:443
CONNECTED(00000003)
depth=3 C = US, O = "The Go Daddy Group, Inc.", OU = Go Daddy Class 2 Certification Authority
verify return:1
depth=2 C = US, ST = Arizona, L = Scottsdale, O = "GoDaddy.com, Inc.", CN = Go Daddy Root Certificate Authority - G2
verify return:1
depth=1 C = US, ST = Arizona, L = Scottsdale, O = "GoDaddy.com, Inc.", OU = http://certs.godaddy.com/repository/, CN = Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2
verify return:1
depth=0 OU = Domain Control Validated, CN = *.archive.org
verify return:1
---
Certificate chain
 0 s:/OU=Domain Control Validated/CN=*.archive.org
   i:/C=US/ST=Arizona/L=Scottsdale/O=GoDaddy.com, Inc./OU=http://certs.godaddy.com/repository//CN=Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2
 1 s:/C=US/ST=Arizona/L=Scottsdale/O=GoDaddy.com, Inc./OU=http://certs.godaddy.com/repository//CN=Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2
   i:/C=US/ST=Arizona/L=Scottsdale/O=GoDaddy.com, Inc./CN=Go Daddy Root Certificate Authority - G2
 2 s:/C=US/ST=Arizona/L=Scottsdale/O=GoDaddy.com, Inc./CN=Go Daddy Root Certificate Authority - G2
   i:/C=US/O=The Go Daddy Group, Inc./OU=Go Daddy Class 2 Certification Authority
 3 s:/C=US/O=The Go Daddy Group, Inc./OU=Go Daddy Class 2 Certification Authority
   i:/C=US/O=The Go Daddy Group, Inc./OU=Go Daddy Class 2 Certification Authority
---
Server certificate
-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----
MIIFIDCCBAigAwIBAgIHK0FNI6CeWzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFADCBtDELMAkGA1UE
BhMCVVMxEDAOBgNVBAgTB0FyaXpvbmExEzARBgNVBAcTClNjb3R0c2RhbGUxGjAY
BgNVBAoTEUdvRGFkZHkuY29tLCBJbmMuMS0wKwYDVQQLEyRodHRwOi8vY2VydHMu
Z29kYWRkeS5jb20vcmVwb3NpdG9yeS8xMzAxBgNVBAMTKkdvIERhZGR5IFNlY3Vy
ZSBDZXJ0aWZpY2F0ZSBBdXRob3JpdHkgLSBHMjAeFw0xNDEyMTAwMDIyMDVaFw0x
NzAyMjEyMjU2MDhaMDsxITAfBgNVBAsTGERvbWFpbiBDb250cm9sIFZhbGlkYXRl
ZDEWMBQGA1UEAwwNKi5hcmNoaXZlLm9yZzCCASIwDQYJKoZIhvcNAQEBBQADggEP
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Lsf54qKbqNPd2Dg+8WeJbGnb+ja7K3Nm6F+i38BivxQ1Q+M7PCjTdl0Jk6Ei22HP
topib+BDI08uKLGfxTGev7Gkt6O4pehkWQG/GNuyN7TDQlhleXOFFq18bsQlq7B8
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dcpiHymQjqc+UDOSJiaJ/eyLPO+0erSI8OCpn2BZpDn+oKjvXQxQrKCIjsm8q6OV
zRl1KvaVLtZZvmrmfZtktvp6huiXKDD7XdWpNXvgqw0nk4qHpJh9iS+cewj7Q3zU
umEqrBq/S0UI0oX3d+hnLMZ1Zbs=
-----END CERTIFICATE-----
subject=/OU=Domain Control Validated/CN=*.archive.org
issuer=/C=US/ST=Arizona/L=Scottsdale/O=GoDaddy.com, Inc./OU=http://certs.godaddy.com/repository//CN=Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2
---
No client certificate CA names sent
Peer signing digest: SHA512
Server Temp Key: ECDH, P-256, 256 bits
---
SSL handshake has read 5417 bytes and written 433 bytes
---
New, TLSv1/SSLv3, Cipher is ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256
Server public key is 2048 bit
Secure Renegotiation IS supported
Compression: NONE
Expansion: NONE
No ALPN negotiated
SSL-Session:
    Protocol  : TLSv1.2
    Cipher    : ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256
    Session-ID: 08B9CA3A01F002FC79D67B37BB29FC3D79AA4506B709ED633C37F43B3E2A127A
    Session-ID-ctx: 
    Master-Key: DF4947839D14072F572A98F5E02C898738167082CB8C0B93B8CA292516D1BD338F25B66B1B598CF79EFFD83C1EE5038D
    Key-Arg   : None
    PSK identity: None
    PSK identity hint: None
    SRP username: None
    TLS session ticket lifetime hint: 300 (seconds)
    TLS session ticket:
    0000 - 0d c3 1e 33 11 af be b7-8e 4c f4 93 49 b8 87 d0   ...3.....L..I...
    0010 - e1 cb 51 e3 2d 60 6d ed-5a e7 1b 43 04 57 85 81   ..Q.-`m.Z..C.W..
    0020 - c2 db 31 b6 b6 1f 2e 7d-09 01 21 fe ca 92 db e1   ..1....}..!.....
    0030 - 3c 39 45 87 ef 10 3f 45-45 95 07 c6 8e b4 70 58   <9E...?EE.....pX
    0040 - b8 60 90 dc bd 86 42 d3-9c c4 9b b9 f0 f1 1e c0   .`....B.........
    0050 - 99 63 4b 0f d6 a9 18 8a-54 98 88 1b 1b 53 10 96   .cK.....T....S..
    0060 - 90 5b d3 6a de f8 c0 4c-d5 49 7c 1d 19 d0 6d 9d   .[.j...L.I|...m.
    0070 - 21 1e 7b 0b 66 27 ec 02-b9 72 e6 f7 a7 34 ab 24   !.{.f'...r...4.$
    0080 - 90 19 7d 5b 61 2d 68 5b-e2 8a 72 a3 43 5b 1b d7   ..}[a-h[..r.C[..
    0090 - bf 8c e7 67 a6 fc 00 19-af ee 12 fd 84 cc 36 fc   ...g..........6.
    00a0 - 84 68 9a ca 76 8b 62 3e-b9 b6 56 1e c8 ca 82 25   .h..v.b>..V....%

    Start Time: 1458823932
    Timeout   : 300 (sec)
    Verify return code: 0 (ok)
---

q
<html>
<head><title>400 Bad Request</title></head>
<body bgcolor="white">
<center><h1>400 Bad Request</h1></center>
<hr><center>nginx/1.4.6 (Ubuntu)</center>
</body>
</html>
read:errno=0

Новосибирск «Новотелеком» из дома

alex@aero:~$ openssl s_client -connect archive.org:443
CONNECTED(00000003)
depth=3 C = US, O = "The Go Daddy Group, Inc.", OU = Go Daddy Class 2 Certification Authority
verify return:1
depth=2 C = US, ST = Arizona, L = Scottsdale, O = "GoDaddy.com, Inc.", CN = Go Daddy Root Certificate Authority - G2
verify return:1
depth=1 C = US, ST = Arizona, L = Scottsdale, O = "GoDaddy.com, Inc.", OU = http://certs.godaddy.com/repository/, CN = Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2
verify return:1
depth=0 OU = Domain Control Validated, CN = *.archive.org
verify return:1
---
Certificate chain
 0 s:/OU=Domain Control Validated/CN=*.archive.org
   i:/C=US/ST=Arizona/L=Scottsdale/O=GoDaddy.com, Inc./OU=http://certs.godaddy.com/repository//CN=Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2
 1 s:/C=US/ST=Arizona/L=Scottsdale/O=GoDaddy.com, Inc./OU=http://certs.godaddy.com/repository//CN=Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2
   i:/C=US/ST=Arizona/L=Scottsdale/O=GoDaddy.com, Inc./CN=Go Daddy Root Certificate Authority - G2
 2 s:/C=US/ST=Arizona/L=Scottsdale/O=GoDaddy.com, Inc./CN=Go Daddy Root Certificate Authority - G2
   i:/C=US/O=The Go Daddy Group, Inc./OU=Go Daddy Class 2 Certification Authority
 3 s:/C=US/O=The Go Daddy Group, Inc./OU=Go Daddy Class 2 Certification Authority
   i:/C=US/O=The Go Daddy Group, Inc./OU=Go Daddy Class 2 Certification Authority
---
Server certificate
-----BEGIN CERTIFICATE-----
MIIFIDCCBAigAwIBAgIHK0FNI6CeWzANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFADCBtDELMAkGA1UE
BhMCVVMxEDAOBgNVBAgTB0FyaXpvbmExEzARBgNVBAcTClNjb3R0c2RhbGUxGjAY
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umEqrBq/S0UI0oX3d+hnLMZ1Zbs=
-----END CERTIFICATE-----
subject=/OU=Domain Control Validated/CN=*.archive.org
issuer=/C=US/ST=Arizona/L=Scottsdale/O=GoDaddy.com, Inc./OU=http://certs.godaddy.com/repository//CN=Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority - G2
---
No client certificate CA names sent
Peer signing digest: SHA512
Server Temp Key: ECDH, P-256, 256 bits
---
SSL handshake has read 5417 bytes and written 441 bytes
---
New, TLSv1/SSLv3, Cipher is ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256
Server public key is 2048 bit
Secure Renegotiation IS supported
Compression: NONE
Expansion: NONE
No ALPN negotiated
SSL-Session:
    Protocol  : TLSv1.2
    Cipher    : ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256
    Session-ID: B6148B3BE2ACA17805561CB2235339900E4974480370BE168E58E583799BB671
    Session-ID-ctx: 
    Master-Key: 03688A708504E87072F7F2C8BD96BDFF63A9CEDA8D7CF3F0879D1BB525E027CA4FB7461E97FDD772F6F488FECEABB09F
    Key-Arg   : None
    PSK identity: None
    PSK identity hint: None
    SRP username: None
    TLS session ticket lifetime hint: 300 (seconds)
    TLS session ticket:
    0000 - 0c 96 75 c4 ba b5 48 e9-69 cf ed 47 f4 4c 48 21   ..u...H.i..G.LH!
    0010 - d0 a5 35 0d dd 96 e7 c9-93 c3 70 7e a8 de 20 1d   ..5.......p~.. .
    0020 - 82 8b dd e2 8a 24 75 b0-5e 53 48 e9 66 19 4e 54   .....$u.^SH.f.NT
    0030 - 36 bb 5d 7c 28 10 84 4f-d4 6a 68 e1 08 da ea 23   6.]|(..O.jh....#
    0040 - 99 d2 68 79 bf f2 8b fa-9c 6c f6 6c a3 7f ac b0   ..hy.....l.l....
    0050 - 35 83 33 0a 8e 61 92 2f-ba d6 c2 0a 78 30 7f 17   5.3..a./....x0..
    0060 - 3e 8a 80 a5 6a 84 da 99-a8 93 d7 38 bc a3 a7 ca   >...j......8....
    0070 - db 6b 4e 26 79 eb 80 76-ed 0a 20 d2 c5 0b 46 5d   .kN&y..v.. ...F]
    0080 - 64 e4 8c 26 4c b4 ff 4c-64 fd 38 2a fc 11 91 fb   d..&L..Ld.8*....
    0090 - 12 ab 0b 40 98 8c 9b 67-1e 76 24 37 85 1c 44 4c   ...@...g.v$7..DL
    00a0 - eb 78 39 a8 f1 e0 e1 72-ab a4 7f 53 c8 6d 71 05   .x9....r...S.mq.

    Start Time: 1458824031
    Timeout   : 300 (sec)
    Verify return code: 0 (ok)
---
/
<html>
<head><title>400 Bad Request</title></head>
<body bgcolor="white">
<center><h1>400 Bad Request</h1></center>
<hr><center>nginx/1.4.6 (Ubuntu)</center>
</body>
</html>
read:errno=0

[@d7s2di]

Видимо, ntline отжигает. Зашел с домашнего компа, подключенного к ростелекому:

openssl s_client -connect archive.org:443

CONNECTED(00000003)
depth=3 C = US, O = "The Go Daddy Group, Inc.", OU = Go Daddy Class 2 Certification Authority
verify error:num=19:self signed certificate in certificate chain
verify return:0
Certificate chain
0 s:/OU=Domain Control Validated/CN=*.archive.org
i:/C=US/ST=Arizona/L=Scottsdale/O=GoDaddy.com, Inc./OU=http://certs.godaddy.com/repository//CN=Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority — G2
1 s:/C=US/ST=Arizona/L=Scottsdale/O=GoDaddy.com, Inc./OU=http://certs.godaddy.com/repository//CN=Go Daddy Secure Certificate Authority — G2
i:/C=US/ST=Arizona/L=Scottsdale/O=GoDaddy.com, Inc./CN=Go Daddy Root Certificate Authority — G2
2 s:/C=US/ST=Arizona/L=Scottsdale/O=GoDaddy.com, Inc./CN=Go Daddy Root Certificate Authority — G2
i:/C=US/O=The Go Daddy Group, Inc./OU=Go Daddy Class 2 Certification Authority
3 s:/C=US/O=The Go Daddy Group, Inc./OU=Go Daddy Class 2 Certification Authority
i:/C=US/O=The Go Daddy Group, Inc./OU=Go Daddy Class 2 Certification Authority

[@Lethal_Weapon]

Так с прошлого года уже: geektimes.ru/post/252544