Telegram after 5 years

[ProRunner]

So basically a Telegram moderator can decide for all Telegram users whether they want a particular user to be able to contact them first. Did they ask me if I want them to decide for me?

If they would have asked that question every spammer before restricting their accounts, the messenger would have become unusable due to the amount of spam messages each and every user would receive. I'm sorry, but I'm all for spam-free messengers.

[aruseni]

The problem is that the definition of what spam is differs dramatically depending on who you ask. For example, people who have sent a message to a group chat about a Telegram channel are certainly not people who I don’t want to be able to contact me.

In decentralized systems we don’t have such problem. For example, if I don’t like how Gmail filters incoming messages for me, I am completely free to use something else instead of Gmail (and all Gmail users can still write to me). In fact, I can even affect the filtering while still using Gmail. And the messages that Gmail thinks are spam are simply appearing in another folder. In Telegram, there is no way of knowing whether such person has tried to send you a message. You can’t allow these people to contact you. It doesn’t matter whether anything they have ever sent anybody is spam to you, it only matters what Telegram moderators think about a person.

[ProRunner]

Have you asked whether the people in the group wanted to know about your Telegram channel at all? That's probably why some people in the group reported it and they had every right to do so. I'm sorry to be so blunt, but you broke the Telegram ToS, you suffer the consequences.

Your are saying that Telegram moderators are limiting your freedom. They do not. You are free to use any other messaging service. However, if you wish to use centralized service like Telegram you're agreeing «to play by their rules».

Once again, no one in their right mind would ever want to use a messenger that do not have antispam system. You might complain it's too strict, but that is up to the service to decide.

[aruseni]

Once again, no one in their right mind would ever want to use a messenger that do not have antispam system.

This is one of the most common manipulation techniques, see this post. I don’t agree that “normal” people would not want a messenger without spam filtering, I’d agree though that the majority indeed needs some kind of filtering. And I have never said that Telegram can’t do whatever they want with their platform. I just say that when one starts to use Telegram, they have to understand that they don’t really control who can message them. They just have to accept that Telegram moderators do it.